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How to convince my parents to allow me to have rats?


I feel about 10 years old posting this, but here goes! 

I've been thinking for some time about getting small fuzzy pets. Namely two rats. It's probably not going to happen because I'm living at home with my parents, and they both strongly dislike rats. I also have a small yorkie so perhaps it isn't a wonderful idea to get small animals anyway. They may drive her nuts, though she's afraid of her shadow so more than likely she'll take one look at them and leg it.

I pose quite a reasonable argument as to why I should be allowed keep pets in the house. I have some savings so I can buy the little critters, their cage and all the bits and bobs. I get money every week and I would be able to afford their bedding and food with this money.

I am more than capable of looking after two small animals. I have experience doing this and my parents know I do. If the little critters had to visit the vet realistically I would probably have to borrow money (from my parents or sister) but I would pay every penny of it back. 

Basically, they would be MY pets because I would accept full responsibility for them. I even said they could live in my room. I don't see how that would be a problem, in fact I'd really quite like it. I know they can get noisy in the night but if they did they would be safe in the spare room next to me. 

So my parents are saying I can't have rats because a) they don't like them, and b) they're afraid the dog will be upset. Should I just wait until I move out or should I try to win them over? And if so, how? 



-- Edited by Indigo Empress on Tuesday 17th of July 2012 09:06:09 PM

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Could you compromise, go for a hamster or something? They might have a particular disliking for rats but not other creatures. Emma and a couple of other mooks have had lots of rats, and so could answer any specific worries (smells, diseases, noise, the kind of assumptions people make) for you to pass on. There's a couple of articles on the main mooky site about small pets and rats that might have some interesting information. Other than that, I can't think of much else you haven't already said.

Good luck with your quest for little furballs of love.
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I bought Jethro two rats at Xmas and since then I've fallen in love with them. They actually inspired me to write a brief article for Mooky about their care. They're such sweethearts and they make wonderful pets. I really don't see why a lot of people hate them automatically. I can understand people having genuine phobias, but a lot of people hate rats just cuz.

I mentioned compromising. I'd happily go for guinea pigs as I've owned them before and have lots of experience with them. My parents weren't happy with this and simply said "No." I think it's a load of bollocks if I'm honest, I'm 21 years old, my sister and niece just moved out so there's loads of bloody room, I'm bloody well competent with animals... best stop before this turns into a rant haha.

I hope I can have two ratties. It's silly but I've even started thinking of names ha. Thanks for your advice sweetie xxx





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Actually, rats are far less nocturnal than hamsters and other small rodents. Our 5 tend to sleep til about mid-afternoon then have a few hours running around then have a wee snooze again, up around 9-10pm and that's them up and about for a few hours again (saying that, to prove me wrong they are all snuggled up right now at midnight!).

They are quite noisy at night - we keep our living room door closed and we can still hear them from upstairs. They like to wrestle each other...a lot!

Boys are less active in general than girls, more likely to be happy sitting in your lap whereas females tend to be very adventurous and want to run around. They do need time out of the cage in a secure area - our living room is pretty much entirely their domain and they love climbing...they find the oddest ways to get up things! Wires and cables are prone to chewing so you need to keep them either out the way or watch while the rats are out.

Best to keep 2 together as they are very sociable - much more so than hamsters (anti-social little buggers) and they very very very rarely bite. Our babies have a little chew on our fingers but it's like when human babies just stick things in their mouth to feel them rather than to actually eat them.

Personally, I wouldn't risk having rats and a terrier (of any disposition) in the same house.

Unfortunately, it is your parent's house and if they are dead set against it then you'll probably just have to wait til you move out. Saying that, my mum was a bit "eeep" about me getting rats when I was at home. I got my first two when they were babies so she had time to get used to them before they were big. I think it's the tails that make some people squeamish but, as you'll know from Jethro's rats, the tails are dry and warm.

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Well your sis and the baby just moved out so that creates a nice opening! Just bug them about it... Show them Vic and Bob and how cute they are. I know they're funny about stuff once they've put their collective foot down tho...

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Thanks for your reply Emma, very helpful and informative! I want to reply to what you've said more than this, but Im on my phone and it's a pain in the arse typing on this tiny screen so I will come back later and edit this. Chris, I've considered attacking their senses with cuteness! Have you seen the amount of cute rat clips on youtube? I have lots of cute ammo :p I am genuinely concerned about keeping rats in the same house as Daisy. I mean its a big enough house but something could happen... Though the risk of something bad happening is quite small as she lives downstairs. The rats would be upstairs.

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Went to the pet shop yesterday and I saw for the first time ever they have adorable little ratties. They're keeping them in big huge enclosures too, which made me happy. I saw the cutest little black girl. She was mostly black, even her tail was black, but her little belly and paws were white. I proceeded to torture myself further by looking at cages etc etc. I could buy a huge cage, two rats and a few bits and bobs as well as the essentials for under 160 quid. Argh! I've convinced my mam to come to the pet shop with me and I plan to show her how adorable the little guys are while I'm there. Let the cuteness attack commence!

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From a swedish ratforum I frequent, I know people who have ferrets and rats, dogs of all sizes and rats, cats and rats. Rats tend to be very good at defending their cage from other pets, and more often than not, the other pets learn not to get to close to the cage bars. Well, maybe not the ferrets. A dog and rats can get along fine, as long as they're supervised but if you want to be sure, keep them in different rooms when it's out of the cage time.

You seem to have quite a different dilemma from most who frequent the rat forum looking for ways to persuade parent. I take it your parents already know you're responsible and experienced in caring for pets. Therefore their no must come from them disliking rats. So, find a rat owner in your nearby area, and arrange a visit with your parents, so that they can meet rats, and see how sweet little creatures they are.
It might be a good idea not to visit a breeder the first thing you do, since they usually have a lot of the furry things, and animals tend to smell a bit when reaching a certain number, which can be off putting.

I would recommend buying from a breeder rather than a pet store when it gets to that. It's a bit more expensive, but breeders usually handle their animals more than a pet store can, and so the rats are usually more brave and sociable. Also, you usually get to meet and pick out your babies a week or so before they're ready to be shipped. Not saying there aren't wonderful rats in the stores too, but I believe in supporting the breeders. Then again, I live in Sweden, our pet shops usually get their rats from corporate mass breeding.

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Yeah. As adorable as pet shop rats are definitely find a breeder. Pet shops sell rats as snake food and as pets. They don't socialise them and they will be a bit older than you would get them from a breeder.

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I'd love to get rats from a breeder, it seems like a much better idea on so many levels than buying from a pet shop. Sadly I am having a difficult time finding Irish breeders. Keeping rats as pets is not a big thing by any means over here. In fact in the pet shop the other day there were people absolutely gobsmacked that the shop had rats... :/ I'll keep my eyes peeled for local breeders.


I found one website which looks great, but they're not breeding at the moment and they're located in Cork, which is quite far from me. I don't drive and having to get public transport down (3 hrs or so on the train) is not the problem, it would be the coming back with two baby rats I'd be worried about. 

Haha, I'm jumping to conclusions so much here. My parents are still extremely skeptical about this and haven't given the go ahead! Still, it's nice looking at this stuff because I do plan on getting rats someday, even if I have to wait until I have my own place. 



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Aww. Try and see if you can find a rat community that can help you. I know for a fact that breeders here in Sweden import from breeders in England sometimes and the rat community have members in Germany and the Netherlands as well, so even if you can't find a community based in Ireland someone might have knowledge of where you can turn in your quest for active breeders. :)

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